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 Changing Latitudes, Changing Attitudes
 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 20:52:30 +0000
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I did something last week that I had never “offically” done before. I handed in my two week notice at Time Warner Cable. My final day is the 7th, making it 5 years, 2 months and 28 days since I first started as a I/R Tech up in Akron. So why am I resigning? Melissa and I are moving to Alabama.

While Columbus has been good, Melissa has always wanted to be closer to her family. With her father’s stroke earlier this year, we started really looking hard at moving. I have been keeping an eye on over 40 companies, and put in about 30 applications since I started keeping track in June. Finally I got a bite, and interview, and finally a job. On September 12th, I start as a Business Customer Service Tech for Knology.

The job is a bit of a mix of what I do now and what I did in Akron. Essentially I’m a cable tech with a focus on Business and Fiber-to-the-Home customers. Yep, I’ll be doing work on Fiber! Melissa is going to help take care of her brother, and focus on her business. She already has an actual wedding cake she is going to bake for a customer, and wants to get into the cake decorating business. I’m still going to try and do development under my RomLabs business, but its on hold till October when the new iPhones come out. With iOS 5 around the corner, it makes little sense to try and develop for iOS 3, and I lack any good iOS 4 devices.

Of course, there are a few downsides to this move. First, for the immediate future, there is no wire based HSD options. My HSD connection will be a VZW 3G USB stick and a Cradlepoint router. I know 3G speeds and a 5GB data cap are not the best, but it beats the pants off a satellite connection. Satellite ping times might as well be measured in seconds! Second, I doubt I’ll be making it to another DasLAN unless I’m in the area. The upside is I’m planning on making it to QuakeCon’s more often, starting in 2012. PaxEast is a possibility, but I have to see how things work out.

In a way, while I’m going to miss Columbus and Time Warner Cable, I know its time to move on. So onward and upward! We move down on the 10th and hopefully be back online sometime on the 11th.

 Alison

 http://hmsvik84.livejournal.com/21483.html
 Sun, 08 May 2011 08:53:40 GMT
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Recently I went through my posts and realized that they almost always start with "It's been a while since I posted..." And this post is no exception. It seems that life has a way of being so busy that writing takes a back seat. This is going to be a different kind of entry though. Most of my previous topics have just been about what's going on in my life at the time. Hopefully this one will be therapeutic for me.

A lot of great things have happened to me over the past year. The biggest being getting married and buying a house. This past March I went on a lovely trip to Venice, Italy with my family for spring break vacation.

It was a Saturday when I got back to Dallas from spring break. I was surprised when I checked my work schedule and discovered that I also had Sunday and Monday off, too. So, as I usually do, I went to Home Depot to get some stuff for a house project. My phone rang and I saw that it was my mom calling. I thought that she was going to ask for pictures from our trip to Italy, or something like that. I answered the phone and heard "I have some bad news." I could tell by the tone of her voice that something was very wrong. I stopped dead in mt tracks and asked what she meant.

I found out that my Uncle Rick, my dad's younger brother, had suffered a brain aneurysm. At that point they didn't know how bad it was. He was being life lighted University Hospital in Cleveland. Apparently Uncle Rick had not shown up for work on Thursday and also not shown up on  Monday either. His boss called my dad to check and see if everything was alright. Since my uncle's birthday was on Monday my dad thought that he may have gone camping and there could have been a miscommunication between work. After doing some more digging, my dad decided to go over to my uncle's apartment and see if he was home. The police arrived at the same time as my dad.

When they opened the door they found my uncle laying on the floor between the bathroom and the living room. He was unconscious. 911 was called. I cannot imagine what it was like for my dad to open up the door and find his brother like that. They could tell that he had been there for a few days. He had sores on his head and back from where he was on the floor.

They found him on his 53rd birthday.

He was admitted into the Neuro ICU. Many scans were taken and tests were ran to find out the severity of the damage. At first the doctors were hopeful that he would recover. Uncle Rick still hadn't woken up. His brain was swollen from the trauma and had to have 2 surgeries to try and relieve the pressure. On the second one the doctors removed a section of his skull from ear to ear, like a headband, hoping that it would help. He would respond to pain, but in a very primitive way. His pupils would still dilate. The doctors were unsure if he could still hear but just couldn't respond in a meaningful way. Imagine being trapped in your body with all of these scary things happening around you with no way to communicate. That sounds like just about the most horrible situation I can think of.

While Uncle Rick was in the ICU he was visited by my grandma Mauch, grandpa Mauch, Aunt Sherry, and some very old friends from high school that he still kept in touch with. I'm glad that people were able to go and visit him.

All along the way I wanted to go back and visit too. My mom told me that then was not the time, and that she would let me know when a better time would be. At this point my uncle had just had his surgeries and his prognosis was still semi-positive. The biggest risk was strokes in the brain. I guess that's just what goes along with having an aneurysm. The "danger zone" is for about 10 days. The doctors monitored him and gave him special medicine to try and prevent strokes. After they thought the danger had passed, my uncle had a stroke at the base of his brain. After this point, the chances of recovery were gone. He was now in a coma. My mom decided that then would be a good time to visit him.

I took time off work to fly back to Ohio. We went straight from the airport to the hospital to visit. I knew it would be hard. I didn't think it would be as hard as it actually was. Before I went in to see him my dad went in to make sure everything was settled, and to make sure that we wouldn't interrupt the nurses doing anything. In the waiting area I was surprised at the people. A lot of them were on cell phones and talking about people like this was just another day and everything was fine. Nobody was crying or anything. There I was, sitting there barely being able to contain my emotions.

We went into the room. My dad announced to my uncle that I had come to visit with him. Every time people visited, my parents would tell my uncle who was there. The person lying in the bed didn't even look like the man that I knew. First, he didn't have his glasses. Second, he didn't have his mustache. He looked a lot younger than I thought he was. I guess when you're little all adults just look old. That mind set must have followed me to adulthood. Another thing that was very strange was the smell. Not that it was good or bad, it was just different that I was expecting. I guess I expected it to smell bad. It didn't. It was a clean/hospital/febreeze smell. I guess I had to mention that. My dad was in the room with me. Uncle Rick had lots and lots of IV medicine attached to a machine that was regulating the dosages. He had a tube in his nose for feeding and he was on the ventilator with a trach (a hole in the throat). The ventilator was breathing for him, but he would also breathe on his own. There were lots of monitors for heart rate, blood pressure, and breathing. he also had a blanket sort of thing that was pumping cold water to try and keep his fever down. It was very shocking to see one person hooked up to so many different things, let alone someone that you've always had memories of as far back ans you can remember.

My dad had been to my uncle's work to give them an update. Work gave my dad a get well card for my uncle. Since my uncle was in a coma he could not read the card. My dad opened the card and read it aloud to his brother. People had written personal messages. "We miss the big guy down the hall" was  a memorable one. I completely lost all composure and started sobbing. It was so emotional to see my dad reading this card to his brother. I can imagine the sadness of seeing your brother in that state. If it were my brother there I would be beside myself. I wouldn't be able to read...I'd probably just be crying all of the time. My dad started to lose his composure and had to stop reading. It was the saddest thing to witness. We spent the day at the hospital visiting. My mom, dad. and I would go on walks and we went to the cafeteria. That hospital was huge!

On the car ride back to my parents house I started to not feel good. I had a really bad headache from trying to not cry all day. I hadn't eaten, I was tired, and I was very sad. I felt like I was going to barf. My mom quickly dumped her purse out and threw it back to me. There was no way I was going to barf in her purse! We were on the highway going about 70mph and we weren't able to stop safely. I rolled down the window, held my hair back, and let it rip. If anyone was following too closely behind the car I'll bet they backed off once they saw what was happening! I felt much better after I threw up. We made it home without another getting sick moment. At the time it was horrible to be sick, but looking back I find the situation funny. It's the one thing from that day that makes me chuckle somewhat.

The next day my brother and I went to see Uncle Rick together. Devon brought his guitar to play at my uncle's bedside. Devon told me that the last conversation that he had with my uncle was about playing the guitar. Uncle Rick wanted to hear Devon play but he didn't have his guitar at the time. They agreed that next time they got together that Devon would play for him. Very sadly, in the hospital was the next time. Devon played Stairway to Heaven and a couple of songs that he had written. I suggested that he play some Beatles. Uncle Rick loved the Beatles. My uncle's room was located right outside the nurses station. We closed the sliding doors when Devon played. Nurses and doctors that walked by looked in a I could tell that they were wondering what the sounds were. I don't think that many people had visitors there that would play live music for them. It was truly a special moment. Very heartwarming but also deeply sad at the same time. About half way through the visit alarms started going off to the machines that Uncle Rick was hooked up to. The nurses and doctors can monitor everything from the computers at the stations. Nobody ever came in and there were no emergencies.  The conversation that Devon and I had after leaving the hospital was hard. He said to me that he truly thought Uncle Rick would wake up when he played the guitar. I thought the same thing about myself going to Ohio to visit. Somehow I thought that my sheer will and thoughts would travel like lightning bolts to make him better and wake up. That's the best way I can describe it. It's the primal urge that I had to make everything better. The strongest hoping that I've ever felt, the feeling in your heart and in every part of you. I really wish that all of our love and hope could have brought him back to us. I guess the world doesn't work like that. We left the hospital that day sad, as usual, but glad that the hospital allowed us to have such a special visit.


We visited again the next day. This time we had a meeting with team of doctors about options. Either we could transfer my uncle to a nursing home to live the rest of his life in a coma with no chance of waking up, or we could chose to have him go into Hospice. Hospice basically just means that you will be allowed to pass away without medical intervention, except for pain medication. Life in a nursing home would be feeding tubes, bed sores, and different kinds of complications from just laying there.  I said goodbye to the Uncle Rick that I had known. I want back to Dallas the next day.


Ultimately the decision was made to transfer Uncle Rick to a hospice facility in Akron. He was transferred on April 17th. No ventilator or feeding tube. Just an IV for morphine. His mother, sister, and brother, and sister in law spent the days there with him. My parents were lucky to find a facility with suites for the family so that  they could spend the nights there too.

Uncle Rick passed away on April 21, 2011, a little less than a month after his 53rd birthday.

Mike and I went back to Ohio for his funeral. The actual service wasn't as hard as I thought it would be. I made it through with not so many tears. The moment when I lost it was when my grandpa started sobbing. It's just so heart wrenching to see a father crying for his son. After the service I gave my grandpa a hug and he started sobbing again. It was so hard and sad to go through. Mike was there with me so it made it a little easier to make it.

This whole experience has made me think about my own life more. I feel like I'm never going to be the same person. I was living in my own little world where nothing bad happens to me. I'm lucky. I have a great relationship with my family and I'm very close with them. I have a great husband and our own house. I have a good job.  I realized that things can change in a blink of an eye. Things can go from living life to life coming to screeching halt. My uncle was getting ready for bed on Thursday night when his aneurysm burst. Boom, that's it. I always assumed that I would live a long life full of my own family memories. That may not be the case. It makes me so scared to think about death. Sometimes I feel like I'm going to have a panic attack just thinking about it. Other times I feel calmed by the thought that it's something that everyone goes through and that I shouldn't be scared. I'm not a religious person. This experience sure has shaken that up. Now I don't know what to think about anything anymore. These feelings make me want to have everything now, to be happy right now, in this moment. Because what if I'm not around much longer? I want people who know me to have positive memories of me, like I have of my uncle and my grandparents who have passed away. They are a part of me and they make me who I am. Mike says that ones we love aren't really gone. They live on in our hearts.

I have this great memory of going over to Grandma Mauch's farm in the wintertime as a little girl. I remember sledding down the hill in the front yard with my uncle. It was one of those old fashioned sleds. My uncle got on belly down so he could steer the front. He was not a small guy, prob 6' 4'' . I sat on his back and went flying down the hill with him. I'm sure that I was giggling with delight the whole trip down. I only hope that he had as much fun on that day as I did. I'll never forget it.

I'll never forget him.

 BobOmega

 http://bobomega.livejournal.com/154491.html
 Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:02:40 GMT
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and so another month comes to pass.

reverse order this time!

work is work. systems guys are in the process of redoing the whole infrastructure. and by systems guys i mean the 1 and a consultant. interesting stuff that i won't go into too much here.
still don't enjoy my boss but dealing with that.
took and passed the XP MCP (70-270). now i just have to figure out how to get them to pay me back for that. and then start on the next 6 tests... :/ hopefully they'll show that i am in fact interested in advancing my career. or at the very least pad the resume with certs and all the experience i have.
and i'll probably have very limited time off till ... christmas at this point. october is going to involve a lot of working. then going to ohio for thanksgiving. then ohio for christmas. do not know where or when i'll be yet.

Noticed a bubble in one of my tires sidewalls. decided that i didn't really want to chance having to change my tire on the side of 93 in boston. went and got 2 new ones. yay sport all season tires. so that was exciting. need to get my brakes looked at at some point. probably just need new brake pads.

games!
starting to get tired of prince of persia. its not terrible but it is just the same thing over and over. with some missed jumps because the prince decides to jump the wrong way.

fallout3 is starting to grow on me more and more. i think once i got past not having shit for weapons it started to feel better. using the targeting thing for every shot gets a little tiresome especially when i only have the AP for one shot then have to back up till i get enough for the next. but exploding ghoul heads with the sawed off shotgun is amusing. and stealing everything that isn't nailed down is helping too. karma be damned! will probably be playing it more today.

upcoming games! at least 2 games that are coming out in october look fantastic.

demon's souls. i know i've mentioned this to various people. or at least one. Action RPG with a brutal difficulty. it looks like quite a good time. hopefully i'll get more use out of this preorder then i did blaze blu. i recommend youtubing some gameplay videos or look up the hands ons if you are curious. I'll throw a bit of a better description in. it is more of a dungeon crawler game. it just has a very steep difficulty curve. the game won't try to hold your hand, and in their words will try to kill you as often as it can. comes out october 6th.

Borderlands. as far as i can tell this one is pc/consoles. if i pick it up it'll be on pc, because playing FPS games on the console is a chore. the console versions will have split screen modes though. this is a FPS with a dash of RPG. the art style looks amazing it is like half cell shaded. this isn't a fallout3 fps/rpg. this is like quake3 with 100000+ guns and leveling. and online co-op. first person Diablo with guns kind of game. i dont know why i wasn't paying attention to it earlier but after reading some of the hands ons and seeing the trailers and gameplay videos it looks like it should be a good time. comes out towards the end of october.

plans for the rest of the day, eat and fallout3 if i can manage to not go back to sleep. maybe do something productive. but really. i haven't had a sunday off in forever. shame my reason for taking days off went away, but oh well thats why they make video games!

if i waste enough time i can get chipotle for lunch and maybe cook some chicken and rice for dinner. failing that, there is always subway. though it is raining / shitty out so i dont really want to grill. i bet i can come up with something. also need to do some grocery shopping / BJ's trip. probably not ambitious enough to do that today though.

 Alkali

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 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:49:07 GMT
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 Archangel

 Haven’t posted in almost a year…
 Thu, 15 May 2014 20:42:23 +0000
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This one won’t really be worth much, but if you run a website/blog have a look at this: http://www.stoptheslowlane.com/

If you’re viewing this through RSS have a trip over to http://theascended.org I’ve implemented the TWC/CC version on my page (and can help you if need).

 Manicbomber

 Eddy’s 18th Birthday
 Wed, 07 Sep 2016 19:41:19 +0000
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The thunderstorm warning ran across the top of the television and it seemed as though the cookout would be ruined. The rain did come pouring down with lightning and thunder and if it were not for Eddy holding an umbrella and a plate the last burgers would not have successfully come off the grill. Luckily the storm also did not keep his mother and two sisters from attending who had to drive from Cleveland. This was the second time this year that rain nearly ruined a cookout.

Dinner was served inside. The rain had since stopped, but it was better not to chance it by setting up chairs and a table outside. Next Eddy opened his gifts. Starting with a card from Michelle. The big gift from his Mother and I was next. Everyone helped him unwrap it a bit when he sat and stared at the present. It was the laptop for his college classes, which he starts August 29th. As usual the pictures can be found on the pictures page.

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 Lethal

 My stripper name is jesus
 Thu, 31 Jul 2008 03:20:54 GMT
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I figured it was about time for that annual update I do on here because let's face it holly, moses, and jo are the only people that really use this site anymore. But incase anyone out there is still lurking...

I'm still living in Northfield at least for now, still working at the warehouse coming up on 4 years in october, bought a new computer, had surgery on my foot a couple times in the past month (hopefully it will finally heal right), my hair is about down to my shoulders, and I can't really think of anything else.


btw: Mike I'm gald to see that pic still makes you so happy

btw2: I've been getting weird anonymous texts from someone. Can anyone place the lines

The tempest marches on and on
seeking words of the forgotten song
true loves lost requiem decides
and shelters thoughts from the raging minds

 Darksquare

 BoomShaka?
 Wed, 06 Jan 2010 01:56:55 GMT
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YEAH THAT'S RIGHT!

 Swiftwulf

 I'm not really big into the politics and what not, but...
 Wed, 05 Nov 2008 05:28:12 GMT
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This had me laughing my ass off!



 Eclipse

 Re: 2016 Macbook Pro
 Sat, 14 Jan 2017 15:40:44 +0000
 http://www.darkmercury.net | History

12:27:42 PM Eclipse: Apple's response to Microsoft coming up in about 30 minutes
12:28:13 PM Eclipse: Oh you guys made a touch sensitive iMac studio? well we….took away the esc key
12:28:40 PM Krhainos: Surface Studio still has full-size USB ports, an ethernet port, and a headphone jack. Sad!
12:29:24 PM Krhainos: the new Apple Studio has two lightning connectors for all your connectivity needs
12:30:19 PM Krhainos: the new Lightning Hub adds an additional 4 ports!
12:32:07 PM Eclipse: cant wait to buy that
12:32:13 PM Krhainos: Esc is probably one of the few things that's probably still easy to find on the touch-strip without looking
12:32:19 PM Krhainos: just mash the upper-left hand corner
12:32:27 PM Krhainos: good luck finding like F6 or something though
12:32:41 PM Eclipse: i haven't found f6 in years
12:33:06 PM Eclipse: although i don't do jack shit with function keys except brightness and volume anymore
12:33:19 PM Krhainos: yeah OS X has pretty much evolved F-keys out of the OS
12:33:27 PM Krhainos: so it makes sense to get rid of them
12:33:33 PM Krhainos: only nerds use f-keys extensively
12:34:43 PM Eclipse: there's a movie in there somewhere
12:36:04 PM Krhainos: and it makes extensive use of http://hackertyper.com/
12:37:22 PM Krhainos: so this search engine cold-called me at work trying to get us to buy ads on their shitty search engine
12:37:29 PM Krhainos: http://www.dothop.com
12:37:45 PM Krhainos: and i want them to call back so i can tell them how shitty it is
12:37:50 PM Eclipse: lol
12:38:03 PM Krhainos: its like they saw coverflow and were like "lets make this a search engine"
12:38:03 PM Eclipse: oh man that red circle is catchy
12:38:43 PM Eclipse: i like how it's slow and javascript heavy
12:38:55 PM Krhainos: they called us saying they increased the number of clicks to our website by 60%
12:39:16 PM Krhainos: and i'm like .. how do you know what 60% is if you don't know what we had initially? did you hack into our Google Analytics account?
12:39:30 PM Eclipse: exactly
12:39:48 PM Krhainos: prtty sure they're just a scam to sell us fake clicks (they're the ones clicking)
12:39:55 PM Krhainos: and "keywords" for $500 each
12:40:26 PM Eclipse: I get sooo many fake "expiration" notices for my domains
1:16:23 PM Eclipse: as usual, the first hour of an apple keynote can be safely ignored
1:16:38 PM Krhainos: right haha
1:16:48 PM Krhainos: blah blah blah can we just skip to how to the new hardware
1:16:59 PM Krhainos: unless they're tlaking about a new Apple TV
1:17:08 PM Eclipse: zomg you can play minecraft on an appletv or something
1:17:15 PM Krhainos: which is about how no one wants to buy one when Fire TV's are like $30
1:17:40 PM Krhainos: "Today we're annoucing a new app... and we simply call it TV."
1:17:41 PM Krhainos: of course
1:17:48 PM Eclipse: If they would allow Kodi I would want one
1:17:58 PM Eclipse: so, TV on AppleTV on my TV
1:18:11 PM Krhainos: just like the iPod app on the iPod
1:18:56 PM Eclipse: oh shit are they going to release an app called Computer
1:26:00 PM Eclipse: "You can now say voice commands such as "watch the Louisville game," and Siri will know which app has the football game, and start playing it." as long as you dont live in fucking louisville
1:26:12 PM Krhainos: haha
1:27:01 PM Eclipse: i actually wanted to buy the NBA app subscription for my father in law, but fucking piece of shit won't show cleveland games
1:27:27 PM Krhainos: yay market blackouts
1:27:32 PM Eclipse: and setting up a proxy and shit may or may not work and would definitely get broken
1:28:00 PM Krhainos: i read why they do blackouts but forget why exactly
1:28:04 PM Krhainos: because it was all bs anyway
1:28:49 PM Eclipse: basically because local stations would stop paying out the ass to air them
1:29:10 PM Krhainos: yea something like that
1:29:29 PM Eclipse: "lets talk about the mac now, we love it so much that you're still paying top dollars for shit that's over a year old"
1:30:28 PM Eclipse: or, if you're buying a mac pro, over 3 years old
1:30:42 PM Krhainos: is the rubbish bin mac really 3 years old?
1:31:13 PM Eclipse: ok, almost 3 years old
1:31:16 PM Eclipse: dec 19 2013
1:31:24 PM Krhainos: thats still pretty old
1:31:58 PM Krhainos: oh god no
1:31:59 PM Krhainos: quick emojis
1:32:17 PM Krhainos: Millennials have ruined the MacBook Pro
1:33:03 PM Eclipse: pro just means more expensive now
1:33:17 PM Eclipse: why is esc not in the corner
1:33:26 PM Eclipse: now i have to press a fake F1 for esc
1:35:43 PM Krhainos: i wonder if you can move them around
1:36:19 PM Eclipse: why not just make the whole bottom of the laptop a touchpad
1:36:31 PM Krhainos: don't give them any ideas
1:36:42 PM Eclipse: they'd have nothing to announce next year
1:44:25 PM Eclipse: fucking emoji
1:44:31 PM Eclipse: this must be what getting old feels like
1:44:36 PM Krhainos: hahaha
1:45:32 PM Krhainos: "but how can i use vim with it"?
1:46:22 PM Eclipse: "it shows apps from the app store right in the bar which you can buy and use instead of vim!"
1:50:14 PM Krhainos: https://syllabus.vox-cdn.com/uploads/photo/image/25136/apple-macbook-event-20161027-8403.jpg
1:50:18 PM Krhainos: there's a man page button i'm sold
1:50:26 PM Eclipse: lol
1:50:35 PM Eclipse: honestly I am probably going to buy one
1:51:44 PM Eclipse: mine is a late 2012 and Alison's desktop just died this morning
1:52:36 PM Eclipse: so I will probably order one and give her this machine
1:54:31 PM Krhainos: #DongleLife
1:56:12 PM Eclipse: macbook pros have been donglelife for a long time now
1:56:24 PM Krhainos: thats true
1:56:33 PM Eclipse: just usb instead of usb-c
1:56:49 PM Eclipse: i just need to make sure I can use my cinema displays still
1:57:27 PM Eclipse: ugh now they are talking about the freaking touchbar again
1:57:33 PM Eclipse: we already did this
1:57:45 PM Krhainos: hahaha
1:58:04 PM Krhainos: MacBook Pro more like MacBook Bro
1:58:58 PM Eclipse: i guess they know we need a short break here to google usb-c compatibility
1:59:46 PM Krhainos: Type c connectors are all backwards compatible with the old style port (Type A)
2:02:14 PM Eclipse: this is probably time-filler since the desktops aren't ready yet
2:08:24 PM Eclipse: usb to single link dvi seems easy enough
2:08:36 PM Eclipse: but I was hoping for better
2:09:00 PM Eclipse: i dont see anything about getting the 30" to work with the usb-c amcbook
2:10:24 PM Krhainos: "Microsoft is bringing touch bar support to Office." says Schiller to exactly zero applause or audience reaction.
2:10:53 PM Eclipse: obviously they are
2:11:10 PM Eclipse: everyone is pissed they are not releasing new desktops
2:15:35 PM Eclipse: ok finally back to talking about the laptops again
2:16:46 PM Eclipse: let's hear available today
2:18:02 PM Eclipse: they never do that anymore
2:20:09 PM Eclipse: oh god
2:20:15 PM Krhainos: are you going to be pleb out and buy the touchbad-less version?
2:20:19 PM Krhainos: touchbar*
2:21:19 PM Eclipse: *looks on craigslist*
2:23:19 PM Eclipse: honestly I probably will pleb out
2:24:08 PM Eclipse: RIP 11" Air
2:24:13 PM Krhainos: haha
2:24:28 PM Krhainos: i bought my mom a 13" Air to replace her dying 2008 Mac Mini
2:24:47 PM Eclipse: i loved that machine so much, but once I started Xcode, I just didnt have the screen resolution
2:38:20 PM Eclipse: so if I were to buy new 27-30" displays, which ones are good these days?
2:38:20 PM Krhainos (Autoreply): I'm not here right now
2:56:47 PM Krhainos: LG makes a good display
2:57:04 PM Krhainos: but Dell and HP make good displays too
2:57:49 PM Krhainos: LG makes surprisingly good displays for the price
2:57:56 PM Eclipse: thinking a thunderbolt 3 dock should handle it, but they are like $300
2:57:58 PM Krhainos: i went to best buy to buy the cheapest 21" display i could
2:58:12 PM Krhainos: and that LG monitor i take to lan parties is probably the best monitor i own now
2:58:24 PM Krhainos: too bad its tiny
2:58:40 PM Krhainos: LED backlighting did wonders to LCD technology
3:31:07 PM Eclipse: ugh no minidisplayport really hurts on these new ones
3:31:30 PM Krhainos: heh
3:31:42 PM Krhainos: dongles tho
3:32:30 PM Krhainos: i think mDP and Thunderbolt devices can use simple passive adpaters for TB2 ports
3:33:16 PM Eclipse: the only other mac laptop with usb-c is the 12" macbook so I was trying to google using that with a 30 cinema display
3:33:22 PM Eclipse: but there isn't much there
3:33:51 PM Eclipse: dvi is old now…and of course I still use VGA back by the switch rack
3:33:54 PM Krhainos: intel and the usb group sort of didn't do the world any favors by using the same connector that can carry many similar yet incompatible busses across the same connector
3:34:21 PM Eclipse: they did themselves a favor by making us buy new shit
3:34:35 PM Krhainos: the USB Type C connector can carry : DisplayPort, USB 3.1, and PCI Express (aka Thunderbolt)
3:34:48 PM Krhainos: so the macbook only has USB 3.1 on its type c connector
3:34:56 PM Krhainos: while i think on the new mbp, all four are thunderbolt ports
3:35:25 PM Krhainos: you can tell which busses are available on each port with the symbols present next to the port : http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/usbs-will-have-more-logos-so-people-won-t-confuse-them-anymore-490299-3.jpg
3:35:48 PM Krhainos: every port will carry at least USB 2.0
3:36:13 PM Krhainos: that diagram appears to be German lol (USB 2.0 mit DisplayPort!)
3:37:30 PM Krhainos: TB3, not TB2
3:37:38 PM Eclipse: I need to get from the thunderbolt 3 port to at least 1 minidisplay
3:37:42 PM Krhainos: so in the case of the new MacBooks, you have 2 or 4 TB3 ports
3:38:03 PM Krhainos: so you would need a simple/passive TB3 to mDP adapter
3:38:21 PM Krhainos: since TB > DP with USB > DP without USB
3:38:22 PM Eclipse: but then there's the question of whether it will push dual link dvi
3:38:32 PM Krhainos: all variants of DisplayPort will
3:38:56 PM Krhainos: what display do you have? DL-DVI Cinema Display?
3:39:28 PM Eclipse: yes, i also have another single link dvi 23" cinema
3:39:30 PM Krhainos: at worst, you might be looking at stacking TB3 -> mDP -> DL-DVI adapters, but i'm sure someone like monoprice might make one that does all of that in one adapter.
3:39:34 PM Eclipse: but i don't use that much anymore
3:40:42 PM Krhainos: in the case of the macbook that only has usb on usb-c ports, since it doesn't carry TB or mDP
3:40:58 PM Krhainos: you're basically looking at a USB video card, and those naturally carry at least a $100 price tag
3:41:11 PM Krhainos: it's the lowest form of USB C basically
3:41:24 PM Krhainos: where as the mbp has the highest form of it (carries everything you could possible want)
3:42:56 PM Eclipse: macbook says "Native DisplayPort 1.2 video output", is that just via a usb-c style cable?
3:43:07 PM Krhainos: oh, i stand correctedi
3:43:07 PM Eclipse: like their own dongle
3:43:10 PM Krhainos: it does have DP out then
3:43:19 PM Krhainos: so it'd be the next-level up
3:43:22 PM Krhainos: USB w/ DP
3:43:46 PM Krhainos: in case you're wondering who would implement Type C w/ USB 2.0 instead of 3.0, it would be like smartphones and chromebooks
3:43:49 PM Krhainos: stuff that plain doesn't need 3.0
3:44:07 PM Krhainos: but you can safely assume any laptop that has a type c connector to have at least USB 3.0
3:45:31 PM Krhainos: PCI-E (Thunderbolt), and DisplayPort are high speed packetized interfaces (like ethernet) -- so thats how they can get multiple things out of one port.
3:45:37 PM Krhainos: its like one small ethernet switch
3:46:16 PM Krhainos: and at 10Gb/s, half of it goes to your display (mDP), and the other half goes to data (USB 3.x or PCIE)
3:46:48 PM Krhainos: all this shit that's part of the standard, nearly impossible to explain to consumers
3:47:01 PM Krhainos: but fairly important when it comes to purchasing stuff that plugs into these ports
3:48:18 PM Krhainos: i think at max you can attach three 4K displays before you run out of bandwidth
3:48:23 PM Krhainos: on Thunderbolt
3:48:41 PM Krhainos: and since its all bandwidth, maybe like six 1080p displays
3:48:55 PM Krhainos: er wait. four 1080p displays per 4K x 3 = so 12 actually.
3:49:16 PM Krhainos: in other words, enough.
3:52:58 PM Eclipse: https://www.amazon.com/Juiced-Systems%C2%AE-Multifunction-Display-Delivery/dp/B01EFMC6AK/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1477597871&sr=8-6&keywords=usb-c+mini+displayport
3:53:06 PM Eclipse: that looks like shit but will maybe work
3:53:21 PM Eclipse: i guess they come in not-gold
3:53:32 PM Krhainos: are you thinking of a macbook?
3:54:05 PM Krhainos: that is a neat looking solution for that though
3:54:57 PM Eclipse: no, i dont want a macbook, but the macbook's limitation of only usb-c port(s) is the same problem I'd face integrating the new 13" mbp
3:58:33 PM Krhainos: gotcha
3:58:35 PM Krhainos: it should work
3:58:40 PM Eclipse: My 30 currently uses one of these: http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MB571LL/A/mini-displayport-to-dual-link-dvi-adapter
3:58:51 PM Krhainos: it'll expose the USB ports and the DP function
3:59:03 PM Eclipse: i need to test it and see if the usb is just for power
3:59:15 PM Krhainos: it probably is
3:59:19 PM Eclipse: cause I can plug the usb somewhere else
3:59:30 PM Krhainos: since DP to DVI would require power
3:59:42 PM Krhainos: its also equally possible you plug the USB plug into a iphone charger or something
4:00:03 PM Krhainos: because the cinema display doesn't have a usb hub does it?
4:00:10 PM Eclipse: it does
4:00:13 PM Krhainos: oh what
4:00:22 PM Krhainos: wonder what voodoo they're doing across that cable to carry USB then
4:01:03 PM Krhainos: oh wait there's a usb port from the display too
4:01:05 PM Eclipse: the adapter actually has a usb port on it, which you can plug the display's usb cable into
4:01:08 PM Krhainos: never mind. not so mysterious now lol
4:01:20 PM Eclipse: so i assume you dont have to use it
4:01:42 PM Eclipse: though I probably would…so as to get usb ports on the machine
4:03:45 PM Eclipse: that one I linked for the macbook should work though, one of the comments was about the 30" and that it worked
4:03:46 PM Krhainos: the adapter itself needs power
4:03:51 PM Krhainos: so you need to get power into the adapter somehow
4:04:12 PM Krhainos: be it's just convinient that it gets it from the host machine since thats what also feeds data into the usb ports on the display
4:04:17 PM Eclipse: the single link dvi didn't need the usb part of the adapter
4:04:50 PM Krhainos: yeah, i think that might be because it gets enough power from the DP port
4:05:10 PM Krhainos: DP doesn't output a lot of power, dual-link might be more power hungry
4:08:31 PM Krhainos: it might be like back in the day of some of those external usb hard drives that needed two usb ports
4:08:51 PM Eclipse: it is some old shit now
4:09:08 PM Eclipse: only 1680x1050 on the new screen, that is disappointing
4:09:25 PM Eclipse: retina, of course but still
4:09:26 PM Krhainos: the gtx1070 i bought a couple months back has one dvi port and the rest are DP ports
4:09:32 PM Krhainos: had to buy a bunch of adapters
4:10:38 PM Eclipse: ugh the low end only has 2 usbc and the headphone port…lets put them on the same side maybe…..of course not fuck off
4:10:47 PM Krhainos: hahaha
4:10:57 PM Krhainos: usb audio it?
4:11:04 PM Eclipse: more shit to buy
4:49:43 PM Eclipse: i dont know, this release kind of pisses me off
4:50:33 PM Eclipse: $1500 without the touchbar for only 8gb ram/256gb ssd?
4:50:46 PM Eclipse: my 2012 has 8gb of ram
4:50:54 PM Eclipse: and 256
4:51:17 PM Eclipse: less screen res, hard to adapt to my setup
4:52:08 PM Eclipse: maybe I'll just get a new battery for my laptop and get some stuff for alison instead
5:06:02 PM Krhainos: hmm
5:06:09 PM Krhainos: no desktops is a bummer too i guess
5:06:14 PM Krhainos: i was going to say "why not a mac mini"
5:06:21 PM Krhainos: but when was the last mac mini -- like 4 years ago?
5:07:36 PM Eclipse: Oct 2014 it looks like
5:09:59 PM Eclipse: I can probably get a decent iMac for less than 500 on craigslist and a new battery will be about 125 and be good with that
5:17:06 PM Krhainos: the new aluminum-glass ones
5:17:06 PM Krhainos: ?
5:17:45 PM Eclipse: looks like the core 2 duo ones are about 500 if they top of the line back in the day
5:17:49 PM Eclipse: i was hoping for i5
5:21:44 PM Krhainos: wondering why no more MagSafe though
5:21:47 PM Krhainos: people loved MagSafe
5:22:11 PM Krhainos: Apple has no problem making their own ports (Lightning)
5:22:16 PM Eclipse: the current fantheory is that now the laptops are too light for magsafe
5:22:16 PM Krhainos: maybe their patent was going to run out
5:22:33 PM Krhainos: hmm
5:22:44 PM Krhainos: weaker magnets
5:22:53 PM Eclipse: then it just falls out
5:23:37 PM Krhainos: dont the MacBook Airs have them?
5:23:41 PM Krhainos: thsoe are pretty light
5:23:51 PM Krhainos: 2.38lb sez wikipedia
5:25:16 PM Eclipse: i don't know, the airs had special magsafes. probably lawsuits over fires or something
5:25:25 PM Krhainos: fires
5:25:27 PM Krhainos: pffft
5:25:32 PM Krhainos: samsung made fires normal
5:25:41 PM Krhainos: you should expect fires from consumer electronics
5:26:08 PM Eclipse: i don't think the market went for that